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		<title>By: Best posts on On.eTi.me from Nov 2008 &#124; On.eTi.me</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Best posts on On.eTi.me from Nov 2008 &#124; On.eTi.me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are you a Social Media or Marketing expert? Posted on Wednesday, November 26th, 2008 in Marketing - Comments: (8) I was prompted into this by a recent post from a so called &#8216;expert&#8217; who clearly didn&#8217;t think out his post and what reactions would come before he posted!Social marketing is the systematic application of marketing along with other concepts and techniques to achieve specific behavioral goals for a social good. Social marketing can be applied to promote, for example, merit goods, make the society avoid demerit goods and thus to promote that considers society&#8217;s well being as a whole. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are you a Social Media or Marketing expert? Posted on Wednesday, November 26th, 2008 in Marketing &#8211; Comments: (8) I was prompted into this by a recent post from a so called &#8216;expert&#8217; who clearly didn&#8217;t think out his post and what reactions would come before he posted!Social marketing is the systematic application of marketing along with other concepts and techniques to achieve specific behavioral goals for a social good. Social marketing can be applied to promote, for example, merit goods, make the society avoid demerit goods and thus to promote that considers society&#8217;s well being as a whole. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sessiondesigns (Richard Session)</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>sessiondesigns (Richard Session)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading: &quot;Are you a Social Media or Marketing expert? &#124; On.eTi.me&quot; ( http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u )</description>
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		<title>By: Andrea Hill</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of negative talk right now about &quot;social marketing experts&quot; and I think you keyed into the &quot;expert&quot; part. The funny thing is, you completely ignored the part about social marketing.

Social MEDIA marketing is pretty big right now, and because it&#039;s a new field, it&#039;s difficult to determine who&#039;s an expert.

However, social marketing (as mentioned in the quote, referring to behaviour change) is NOT a new field. Referring to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_marketing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wikipedia entry on social marketing&lt;/a&gt; (interestingly enough, from which your quote appears to be pulled), social marketing as a discipline has been around since the 1970s. There is an academic journal and academic programs dedicated to the field. It has NOTHING to do with how often you blog or tweet.

Experts in the social marketing field? Those who are published and have made advances in the field. I&#039;d mention &lt;a href=&quot;Beginning in the 1970s, it has in the last decade matured into a much more integrative and inclusive discipline that draws on the full range of social sciences and social policy approaches as well as marketing.
Contents&quot;&gt;Nedra Weinreich&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://socialmarketing.blogs.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;R Craig Lefevre&lt;/a&gt;, who don&#039;t just blast into an echo chamber but work within an established field to offer content of value.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andrea Hill&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/afhill/~3/466451119/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buzz metrics monitoring and reputation management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of negative talk right now about &#8220;social marketing experts&#8221; and I think you keyed into the &#8220;expert&#8221; part. The funny thing is, you completely ignored the part about social marketing.</p>
<p>Social MEDIA marketing is pretty big right now, and because it&#8217;s a new field, it&#8217;s difficult to determine who&#8217;s an expert.</p>
<p>However, social marketing (as mentioned in the quote, referring to behaviour change) is NOT a new field. Referring to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_marketing" rel="nofollow">wikipedia entry on social marketing</a> (interestingly enough, from which your quote appears to be pulled), social marketing as a discipline has been around since the 1970s. There is an academic journal and academic programs dedicated to the field. It has NOTHING to do with how often you blog or tweet.</p>
<p>Experts in the social marketing field? Those who are published and have made advances in the field. I&#8217;d mention <a href="Beginning in the 1970s, it has in the last decade matured into a much more integrative and inclusive discipline that draws on the full range of social sciences and social policy approaches as well as marketing.<br />
Contents">Nedra Weinreich</a> and <a href="http://socialmarketing.blogs.com/" rel="nofollow">R Craig Lefevre</a>, who don&#8217;t just blast into an echo chamber but work within an established field to offer content of value.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Andrea Hill&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/afhill/~3/466451119/" rel="nofollow">Buzz metrics monitoring and reputation management</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s especially frustrating when these so-called experts, faced with the mistakes they made, keep telling everyone there&#039;s nothing wrong with their ideas, but it&#039;s all about the execution...
That&#039;s just a load of crap... If there&#039;s one business that shouldn&#039;t have any experts at all it&#039;s marketing... it&#039;s all about gutfeelings and has too many variables to come to exact conclusions.  The only thing people can do is follow that feeling and hope they don&#039;t make the same mistake twice.  Cause we make mistakes, more often than we succeed actually.  (or is that just me?  :)  If so... hope my boss isn&#039;t reading)

&quot;opinions are like assholes, everyone has one&quot;
(Can&#039;t remember who said it, but it fits just right in this discussion)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tom&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhosReadingAnyway/~3/464961692/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why companies should hire 14-year olds!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s especially frustrating when these so-called experts, faced with the mistakes they made, keep telling everyone there&#8217;s nothing wrong with their ideas, but it&#8217;s all about the execution&#8230;<br />
That&#8217;s just a load of crap&#8230; If there&#8217;s one business that shouldn&#8217;t have any experts at all it&#8217;s marketing&#8230; it&#8217;s all about gutfeelings and has too many variables to come to exact conclusions.  The only thing people can do is follow that feeling and hope they don&#8217;t make the same mistake twice.  Cause we make mistakes, more often than we succeed actually.  (or is that just me?  :)  If so&#8230; hope my boss isn&#8217;t reading)</p>
<p>&#8220;opinions are like assholes, everyone has one&#8221;<br />
(Can&#8217;t remember who said it, but it fits just right in this discussion)</p>
<p><abbr><em>Tom&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhosReadingAnyway/~3/464961692/" rel="nofollow">Why companies should hire 14-year olds!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: So What is a Social Media Guru, Exactly &#124; danny BROWN</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>So What is a Social Media Guru, Exactly &#124; danny BROWN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] windows that we can look through and see a different view each time, that it&#8217;s pretty much impossible to class yourself as a social media guru, or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LukeZet (LukeZet)</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>LukeZet (LukeZet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice One Also Are you a social media or marketing expert? http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice One Also Are you a social media or marketing expert? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</a></p>
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		<title>By: MichDdot (Mich D dot TLDs)</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichDdot (Mich D dot TLDs)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading: Are you a Social Media or Marketing expert? &#124; On.eTi.me http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading: Are you a Social Media or Marketing expert? | On.eTi.me <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</a></p>
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		<title>By: styletime (styletime)</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>styletime (styletime)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any WP/PHP/Twitter Stars want to suggest a way to automate adding tweet comments to a blog post like in here http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any WP/PHP/Twitter Stars want to suggest a way to automate adding tweet comments to a blog post like in here <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</a></p>
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		<title>By: styletime (styletime)</title>
		<link>http://socialmediafish.com/social-media/are-you-a-social-media-or-marketing-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>styletime (styletime)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/sugarrae&quot;&gt;@sugarrae&lt;/a&gt; So glad you didn&#039;t use the word expert ;) http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/sugarrae">@sugarrae</a> So glad you didn&#8217;t use the word expert ;) <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6mjc2u</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a Tv program and they were talking about composers and that their true master pieces were created when they were grey and old becasue it took them so long to master there niche.

I guess if you work at something long enough you could call your self an expert but you may only but an expert in a certian part of you job eg. web designer &gt; coder &gt; php coder &lt; expert at php not expert web designer or expert coder. can you cover all the social medias and market everything, do the same rules apply!

I think i might start calling myself a scientist because i like experimenting with certain mediums but by no means an expert.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Max&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/designshard/~3/464156016/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Photoshop Actions - Creating Folder Structures for Web Designs - Tutorial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a Tv program and they were talking about composers and that their true master pieces were created when they were grey and old becasue it took them so long to master there niche.</p>
<p>I guess if you work at something long enough you could call your self an expert but you may only but an expert in a certian part of you job eg. web designer &gt; coder &gt; php coder &lt; expert at php not expert web designer or expert coder. can you cover all the social medias and market everything, do the same rules apply!</p>
<p>I think i might start calling myself a scientist because i like experimenting with certain mediums but by no means an expert.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Max&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/designshard/~3/464156016/" rel="nofollow">Photoshop Actions &#8211; Creating Folder Structures for Web Designs &#8211; Tutorial</a></em></abbr></p>
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